{"id":62583,"date":"2025-05-29T16:41:37","date_gmt":"2025-05-29T06:41:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/billmitchell.org\/blog\/?p=62583"},"modified":"2025-05-30T16:35:24","modified_gmt":"2025-05-30T06:35:24","slug":"the-webbs-knew-more-than-a-century-ago-that-if-you-pay-high-wages-you-get-high-productivity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/billmitchell.org\/blog\/?p=62583","title":{"rendered":"The Webbs knew more than a century ago that if you pay high wages you get high productivity"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>During the recent inflationary episode, the RBA relentlessly pursued the argument that they had to keep hiking interest rates, and then, had to keep them at elevated levels, well beyond any reasonable assessment of the situation, because wage pressures were set to explode. They claimed their business liaison panel was telling them that wages were becoming a problem despite the facts being that nominal wages growth was at record lows and real wages (the purchasing power of the nominal wages) were going backwards at a rate of knots. The RBA massaged that argument by adding that productivity was low and that there was no &#8216;non-inflationary&#8217; space for wage increases as a result, as if it was the workers&#8217; fault. Yesterday (May 28, 2025), the Productivity Commission (a federal agency that morphed out of the old &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/History_of_tariffs_in_Australia\">Tariff Board<\/a> &#8211; published an interesting research report &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pc.gov.au\/research\/completed\/productivity-before-after-covid\/covid-productivity.pdf\">Productivity before and after COVID-19<\/a> &#8211; which lays bare some of the misinformation that the corporate sector has been pumping into the public debate about productivity growth. In particular, it demonstrates that forcing workers to work longer hours undermines productivity growth, that work-from-home is beneficial, and the lack of investment in productive infrastructure by corporations is a major reason for the lagging productivity growth in Australia.<br \/>\n<!--more--><\/p>\n<h2>The Economy of High Wages<\/h2>\n<p>One of the great contributions to institutional writing in economics, which students in the modern undergraduate programs do not encounter (but should), came from the work of &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sidney_Webb,_1st_Baron_Passfield\">Sidney Webb<\/a> &#8211; and &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Beatrice_Webb\">Beatrice Webb<\/a> &#8211; who were British socialists.<\/p>\n<p>Sidney was an academic economist and founded the London School of Economics and together they built the Fabian Society into a formidable political fotce advocating progressive policies.<\/p>\n<p>They also founded the New Statesman magazine in 1913 and were instrumental in the cooperative movement in Britain.<\/p>\n<p>They put together an amazing body of work individually and together.<\/p>\n<p>William Beveridge, who motivated the introduction of the modern welfare state in Britain, worked for the Webbs earlier when they published their &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Minority_Report_(Poor_Law)\"> Minority Report (Poor Law)<\/a> &#8211; which called for the abandonment of the &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Poor_Law\">Poor Law<\/a> &#8211; and the introduction of a living minimum wage and universal education being provided by the state.<\/p>\n<p>That work significantly influenced William Beveridge&#8217;s 1942 &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Beveridge_Report\">Beveridge Report<\/a> &#8211; which laid out the architecture for the welfare state. <\/p>\n<p>It is amazing how the institutions they created or were members of (such as the British Labour Party) have changed so much from their progressive origins.<\/p>\n<p>In their 1897 book &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/industrialdemocr00webbuoft\">Industrial Democracy<\/a> &#8211; the Webbs outlined the role that trade unions and collective bargaining can play in a democratic society to improve the fortunes of the majority (workers that is).<\/p>\n<p>The classic section in Chapter IV (Part III) demonstrates the gross imbalance between the power held by workers and the power exerted by employers:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nThe capitalist is very fond of declaring that labour is a commodity, and the wage contract a bargain of purchase and sale like any other. But he instinctively expects his wage-earners to render him, not only obedience, but also personal deference. If the wage contract is a bargain of purchase and sale like any other, why is the workman expected to tip his hat to his employer, and to say &#8216;sir&#8217; to him without reciprocity?\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>These insights were in stark contrast to the mainstream theory (then and now) that held out that the labour market exchange was nothing different to a market for bananas or any other commodity.<\/p>\n<p>In the mainstream narrative there are no power imbalances and trade unions are considered to be market imperfections that should be eliminated to allow the demand and supply forces to work more perfectly.<\/p>\n<p>They devoted their lives to researching the condition of the working class and developing institutional narratives to improve the position of that class.<\/p>\n<p>Importantly, for the purposes of today&#8217;s blog post, they wrote in that book that the productivity of workers is a positive function of the wage paid,<\/p>\n<p>Workers were more motivated and healthy in workplaces that paid higher wages.<\/p>\n<p>They argued that even small additions to wages or conditions were beneficial to the enterprise, contrary to the mainstream thinking (p.690):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nHence a comparatively small addition to weekly wages, a more equitable piecework list, a larger degree of consideration in fixing the hours for beginning or quitting work, the intervals for meals and the arrangements for holidays, greater care in providing the little comforts of the factory, or in rendering impossible the petty tyrannies of foremen, \u2014 any of these ameliorations of the conditions of labor will suffice, without serious inroads on profits, to attract to a firm the best workers in the town, to gain for it a reputation for justice and benevolence, and to give the employer&#8217;s family an abiding sense of satisfaction whenever they enter the works, or cross the thresholds of their operatives&#8217; home\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>They talked about the advantages of an &#8220;economy of high wages&#8221; which improves productivity, reduces turnover, and encourages skill development and innovation.<\/p>\n<p>Their work more than a century ago still resonates strongly today and stands in stark contrast to the way mainstream economists and the business community talk about wages &#8211; as if they are an impost that should be minimised and the regulations that support wage security should be abolished or watered down.<\/p>\n<p>The Webbs saw that a nation could follow the &#8216;race to the bottom&#8217; approach where competition is prioritised and unregulated such that cost-cutting is deemed beneficial, labour commodified (that is, dehumanised) and workers are deskilled and forced to work longer hours in the workplace.<\/p>\n<p>You can see those pressures in the modern period.<\/p>\n<p>Even the opposition to the work-from-home trend which Covid-19 precipitated as a matter of survival, is part of that corporate strategy to control workers.<\/p>\n<p>The Webbs thought that approach was not a winning formula for a high productivity society.<\/p>\n<p>Conversely, they advocated a high wage economy where workers are protected with a strong regulative framework and produce high quality products and services using the latest technology.<\/p>\n<p>Instead of bashing down workers to the lowest common denominator, the Webbs wanted employers to invest in best-practice technology and treat their workforces with dignity and pay high wages.<\/p>\n<h2>Productivity Commission findings 2025<\/h2>\n<p>In the aftermath of the highly restrictive period of the current Covid-19 pandemic, productivity has fallen sharply in Australia.<\/p>\n<p>Business types blame workers for this &#8211; too much work-from-home and too much regulation by government.<\/p>\n<p>The business lobby constantly argues for wage suppression, longer working hours, less protections etc.<\/p>\n<p>The normal line without any evidence to support it.<\/p>\n<p>But the Productivity Commission (PC) report cited above rejects these claims.<\/p>\n<p>They find that the drop in productivity in recent years is the result of workers working excessive hours.<\/p>\n<p>They said:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n&#8230; the pace of growth in hours worked brought with it some downsides to labour productivity (which could have resulted in wages being slow to rise) &#8230;  the capital stock was simply unable to keep pace with the growth in hours worked &#8230;\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>They also found that the work-from-home trend that has boomed since the pandemic began has not reduced the productivity of workers despite a massive lobby supported by the business sector arguing that without &#8220;in-person interactions&#8221; productivity slumps.<\/p>\n<p>The Report considers the evidence on &#8220;hybrid work&#8221; and notes (p.54):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nWorkers do not need to be in the office full-time to experience the benefits of in-person interactions. As a result, hybrid work (working some days remotely and some days in the office) tends to be beneficial to productivity, or at least, is not detrimental to productivity &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Allowing workers to work from home some days can improve worker satisfaction &#8230; and allows people to benefit by avoiding the commute to work, meaning they have additional time for other purposes &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; hybrid work is associated with higher quantity and novelty of output compared to workers who are full time in the office or full time working remotely.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Importantly, the PC argues that &#8220;long run investment has been low&#8221; or in decline for several decades as a result of corporations not diverting the gains they made from wage suppression into higher investment in best-practice technology.<\/p>\n<p>The low wages growth environment has made it easier for corporations to generate higher profits for shareholders without having to keep pace with innovation.<\/p>\n<p>The PC note that one of the reasons for the low business investment is the &#8220;growing market power of firms&#8221;:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n&#8230; as firms can increase revenue by marking-up prices rather than increasing output. Theoretically, firms with more market power may have less incentive to produce output and build capacity, therefore reducing capital accumulation\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Hence the low productivity environment.<\/p>\n<p>This graph shows the private business investment to GDP ratio (the share of private capital formation expenditure in total expenditure) from 1959 to December 2024.<\/p>\n<p>The decline in the business investment ratio since 2010 is evident and a fundamental reason why productivity growth is slumping.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/billmitchell.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Australia_IY_ratio_1959_December_2024.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/billmitchell.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Australia_IY_ratio_1959_December_2024.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-62584\" srcset=\"https:\/\/billmitchell.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Australia_IY_ratio_1959_December_2024.png 600w, https:\/\/billmitchell.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Australia_IY_ratio_1959_December_2024-300x169.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div style=\"clear:both;\"><\/div>\n<p>One might be tempted to say that this is because profits have not grown sufficiently.<\/p>\n<p>Which would be false.<\/p>\n<p>Business profits are at record levels and there has been a significant redistribution of national income towards profits at the expense of wages over the last four decades.<\/p>\n<p>This graph shows the profit share of national income for Australia.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/billmitchell.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Australia_Profit_Share_1960_December_2024.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/billmitchell.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Australia_Profit_Share_1960_December_2024.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"361\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-62397\" srcset=\"https:\/\/billmitchell.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Australia_Profit_Share_1960_December_2024.png 600w, https:\/\/billmitchell.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Australia_Profit_Share_1960_December_2024-300x181.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\"><\/a><\/p>\n<div style=\"clear: both\"><\/div>\n<h2>Conclusion<\/h2>\n<p>Sidney and Beatrice Webb understood all of this more than a century ago but the interests of capital have always railed against their work.<\/p>\n<p>An economy of high wages is the sure path to a highly productivity economy.<\/p>\n<p>There is a plethora of research supporting that position.<\/p>\n<p>The neoliberal period has seen the balance of power tilt back to employers and capital, which has engaged in the antithesis of that approach.<\/p>\n<p>And now the results are pretty clear &#8211; record low wages, precarious work, longer working hours, less business investment in best-practice technologies, reduced job stability, and at the end of the causal chain &#8211; stagnant productivity.<\/p>\n<p>That is enough for today!<\/p>\n<p>(c) Copyright 2025 William Mitchell. 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